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American police vs Chinese police. Strangulation techniques for law enforcement
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Q&A with the coach. Shanghai based MMA coach & Kunlun Fight ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the fans. Our friend Talent Dance TV wants to know my thoughts on police restraining suspects with strangulation techniques, and how training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu potentially factors into the equation. Comparing and contrasting the methods of Chinese law enforcement officers with their American counterparts.
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I won’t say details but in a law enforcement training session our FBI instructor taught us that it was easier to make an arrest if you were polite and courteous. Too bad that technique has gone the way of the dinosaur. ....وسعت 85
My first time facing an armed
That memory has colored my interactions with police ever since then.
It is my opinion that Qualified Immunity, the judge-made law that allows for so many incidents of unjustified violence to go unpunished, along with the practice of not allowing individual officers to be sued for incidents of gross misconduct (instead its taxpayer money that gets paid out in settlements) are the core legal issues that need to be addressed. The culture of police union groups and 'warrior cop' mentality as I have seen it termed are also alarming and need to be addressed. I appreciate the insight regarding policing in China, so much about our cultures are different, but clearly there are things that US police institutions could learn about earning the public trust rather than demanding it at gunpoint. I only hope the relationship isn't too far gone to be salvaged.
My issue is that people think it is because of guns. It's not. It's because of social programs that means being unable to feed your family or yourself doesn't exist. Free medical treatment, employers can't fire you because you get sick. Americans need stability. They need to stop using socialism as a swear word and realize that without SOME, and I stress some, social programs, america is never going to get better.
It isn't about getting something for free. It's about making sure when life throws you a curve ball, your only option isn't crime.
My favorite moment in your whole channel xD 10
Just wanted to clarify a little on the "defund the police" slogan; even though some people do want
Otherwise, though, agreed on most points! I can't imagine what it'd be like not to have this current culture of fear, but I bet it'd be way more comfortable than what we've got now.
Thanks as always for the thoughts!
This official'ish list of taught techniques is meant to kind of give an example of what's appropriate for reasonable use of force in securing an arrest. Now there's a small catch - it's not the same thing if you're using force in line of duty vs using force in self-defense. So, if you're doing sec, and from some reason you have to escort someone out, and they start resisting, and you can't get them down safely, and they attack you, it may turn the situation from force use to self defense. And self defense has its own legislation. In the sec training I went through, we looked into examples of when a situation is force use and when a situation is self defense. If the situation hasn't deteriorated to self defense, it's never acceptable to e.g. do hard takedowns, chokes or punch someone. And if it has gone into the territory of self defense, it's obviously still not allowed to cause permanent injury with intent. Of course if you end up doing a single leg takedown on a violent person and they hit their head, yeah that can lead to permanent injury, but as long as it was already in self defense, you may get a pass. I think the system is pretty nice in that regard.
1. Toward the end you said jiu-jitsu would be a good martial art for LEO to practice. I was hoping you could expand on that? Are there any particular movements/techniques/principles or even other martial arts you might recommend? This was an excellent video, but I think it might've veered a little off course!
2. These are just sort of my own thoughts, but I must admit I too was on the side of "Defund the Police". Sort of, anyway. I really pushed for reform and divestment of their funds to put back into their communities. I think there's a lot of branding issues around the "Defund the Police" slogan, and I don't think it really represents the idea as well as it could. For me and many others, "Defunding" the police is more about stripping back the money used on paramilitary equipment and weapons training (which is seldom used or overemphasized to give the cops shiny toys, and then pouring those funds into rebuilding impoverished communities.
The jobs of police would be stripped down too so they can narrow their focus too. Do we really need traffic cops? It's like in the medieval era when barbers styled hair and performed minor surgeries. Eventually, people figured those surgeries should just be done by somebody else. Delegating the responsibilities of LEO to new jobs would create jobs and allow LEO to focus more on investigative work or what have you.
And of course I'm all for police reform. Their training is too focused on weapons training and not enough on community building, dealing with mental health crises, etc. And you yourself noted that American police are just especially aggressive. That speaks to a real problem with how LEO officers are vetted, and how many really don't deserve the power they have.
I will admit that many people are all for abolishing the police, and I can't say I go that far. A previous girlfriend I had was. Though when I spoke to her, it was my understanding that many who want to "abolish police" don't actually want no law enforcement at all. Rather, they believe the system and training methodologies are so, so flawed that it's probably just better to start over from the ground up. There are certainly many people who don't want police at all, but I think they're a pretty tiny minority.
Anyways, sorry for the rant. You just seem like a really thoughtful guy, and if you read this I hope I got you to think too. Bless, and all the best ❤
One think the coach said in one of my first classes was: where the head goes, there goes the body.
This hammered
I don't know what its like to be a cop, but I feel I can empathize a little. I understand what its like for people to not know about your job until they do it themselves.
They also never seem to have heard of what first aid is when they just walk past an old man bleeding on the ground not giving a crap . or in any other cases for that matter.
I did however appreaciate the storys of the sheriff in your home town that everyone knew. maybe that is the key to reducing crime a bit in the big cities. more personal contact and knowing your police officer/populace. There are so many kind hearted good police officers in the US as well, that rarely get youtube fame, even though they would deserve it (and some do get it and it's always nice to watch).
My brother and I were talking about this just yesterday and I said basically the same thing "BJJ would be a good place to start".
last month i gave my cv to a few people including my friends for a check and put
i'm sure that i don't look like Carrie-Anne Moss.
i even have a pixie hair-cut and use very little makeup, while her photo was with long hair and makeup.
all 7 people who saw cv commented that i look great. my best friend whom i did not see for a year said that long hair fit me nicely. my ex did not notice that's not me. 5 team-mates who saw me in front of them, also did not notice that it's not me.
it seems that the moment when haircut changes and makeup applied, people turn completely blind towards facial features.
if they see discrepancies they immediately attribute it to hairstyle and makeup effect.
In the same way that a fighter needs to practice chokes on a resisting opponent, a police officer would need to practice chokes on a panicking opponent, for everyone's safety. I don't know if that's doable in a safe, ethical and realistic way.
turned out that individuals into a position of power become less capable to distinguish face features in comparison to "ordinary" folks, and in comparison to themselves before "promotion". somehow a position of power affects humans' capability to distinguish faces.
Imagine if it was done properly, instead of police departments getting armed forces mine sweepers and APCs, the public could have gyms, mental health services, educational programs etc.. Reduce the amount of potential criminals, reduce the need for so much police funding. The whole system as it is currently set up is a vicious circle. Imagine growing up in a city, no decent role models, family or community, and then learning that half of the funding is spent keeping you in your place. Misdemeanor offences leading to prison time, false arrests that poor people can't fight against meaning they can't get any employment opportunities. Makes it difficult to exist in any positive capacity. Many people aren't going to play the game by those rules, and it's understandable, why bother when you know you're set up to fail.
If you look into defunding it its not insane. I'm from england and the idea of the police having 50% of a cities funding, to me, is insane.
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Also do American police really need funding for "warrior training", and to be sent to Israel for "military combat training"? From what I can tell they could benefit more from some discipline and de-escalation techniques.
I said, "Rapey? Okay." then considered whether or not I should engage with what appears to be a potentially significant case of crazy. The guy in her passenger seat looked extremely uncomfortable and explained, "She's from Texas." Not sure what that has to do with anything since most people I've known from Texas were not a-holes. Anyway, I settled on "don't mess with crazy" and just drove away. Of course, the rest of the day was spent trying to keep my pride in check for not having insulted her back. I at least should have warned that dude he should get far away from that girl.
Yet to be confused for a criminal by a cop, so I'll count my blessings.
In the US' case that means the militarisation of the police among other problems. 1
1. Floyd
2. Knee on BACK not knee on neck.
3. When Floyd went unconscious, the officer persisted with the pressure.
4. No one attempted CPR on Floyd when he was found to have no pulse. No one, except the paramedics. CPR performed by paramedics/firefighters never works unless there is continuous CPR from when the person has no pulse to the time the paramedics arrive. If you wait for them to come and then perform CPR then 20 minutes have passed and the person is lost. Lost to inaction.
5. Failure to properly inform dispatch of Floyd's condition. The paramedics did not have AED because they weren't informed of the severity of Floyd's condition. A second ambulance had to bring it.
However, the man was already cuffed, making the move redundant. I find it strange he persisted even after being filmed and witnessed by so many.
Because almost the first thing I happened to hear
They also have 3500+ hours of training before they get the uniform. Compare this to 600 hours mostly in USA (and in some US states as low as 350 hours).
Part of the training is modified jujitsu training. Modifications are aimed at subduing people in a safe and efficient manner. They don't go through every trick in the book aimed at fighting other jujitsu fighters but are instead training how to subdue people that don't have knowledge of jujitsu. Lots of extremity control from what I can see, it can be very efficient, of course. Also they are applying more force and more restrictive techniques the more the person fights back. I have never seen any choke-holds being used.
One interesting thing that I'm noticing now with US mess, is that European countries in general have riot police squads that are highly trained. They get constant training from controlling sport events, I guess. Sport hooliganism is not a thing in US. The way they move and act is kind of a work of art (I've watched it from only few meters distance and felt perfectly safe). From the moment two word order is issued to the moment the guy was locked at the back of the van. it couldn't have been more than 4 seconds. The entire squad of 6-7 "turtles" moved in a synchronized manner, everyone knew exactly where to go, what to do, what to grab.